Evidence of meeting #43 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

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MPs speaking

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Alexandre Roger
Philip Lawrence  Northumberland—Peterborough South, CPC

11 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

I call this meeting to order.

Welcome to meeting number 43 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Finance.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee is meeting on the subject matter of Bill C-19, an act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on April 7, 2022, and other measures.

Today's meeting is taking place in a hybrid format, pursuant to the House order of November 25, 2021.

11 a.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

Mr. Chair—

11 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

I'm in my remarks, MP Fast.

11 a.m.

A voice

That's okay. He's entitled to put up his hand.

11 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

As per the directive of the Board of Internal Economy on March 10, 2022, all those attending the meeting in person must wear a mask, except for members who are in their place during proceedings.

I'd like to make a few comments for the benefit of the witnesses and members. Please wait until I recognize you by name before speaking. For those participating by video conference, click on the microphone icon to activate your mike. Please mute yourself when you are not speaking.

There is interpretation for those on Zoom. You have the choice, at the bottom of your screen, of either “floor”, “English” or “French”. For those in the room, you can use the earpiece and select the desired channel.

I will give a reminder that all comments should be addressed through the chair. For members in the room, if you wish to speak, please raise your hand. For members on Zoom, please use the “raise hand” function. The clerk and I will manage the speaking order as best we can, and we appreciate your patience and understanding in this regard. I request that members and witnesses mutually treat each other with respect and decorum.

In this first hour of committee business, the hands up right now that I see are MP Beech, then MP Ste-Marie, and then MP Stewart.

MP Beech, you have the floor.

11 a.m.

Conservative

Jake Stewart Conservative Miramichi—Grand Lake, NB

No, no. I have a point of order—

11 a.m.

Liberal

Terry Beech Liberal Burnaby North—Seymour, BC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Good morning, members.

I hope everyone—

11 a.m.

Conservative

Jake Stewart Conservative Miramichi—Grand Lake, NB

Point of order. Point of order. I have a point of order over here.

Mr. Chair, MP Beech was not even online, let alone having his hand up, so his hand was not up first.

11 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

MP Beech was—

11 a.m.

Conservative

Jake Stewart Conservative Miramichi—Grand Lake, NB

Mine was up first. No, no, let me speak—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

No, that is not a point of order.

I'm sorry, MP Stewart, but that is not a point of order.

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Conservative

Jake Stewart Conservative Miramichi—Grand Lake, NB

It is a point of order.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

It is not a point of order.

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Conservative

Jake Stewart Conservative Miramichi—Grand Lake, NB

Let me finish.

I was here first. They didn't show up. My hand was up first. It should be recognized first.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

MP Stewart, that is incorrect. You were not here first.

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Conservative

Jake Stewart Conservative Miramichi—Grand Lake, NB

You are serving in poor faith right now. This is poor faith on behalf of the chair.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

MP Beech, you have the floor, and then MP Ste-Marie and MP Stewart.

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

I have another point of order.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Go ahead, MP Fast, on another point of order.

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Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

Mr. Chair, could you seek some counsel from our officers here at the table as to whether you can actually recognize a hand that goes up before the meeting is even formally in session?

The only individual that I know had his or her hand up after the meeting was called by you right here at this table a couple of minutes ago was my colleague over here.

11 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

MP Fast, I don't think you were looking at the screen. I was looking at the screen—

11 a.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

I was looking at the screen.

11 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

The first hand up, MP Fast.... This is how I saw it: MP Beech's hand was up, and then MP Ste-Marie—

11 a.m.

Conservative

Ed Fast Conservative Abbotsford, BC

No.

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Conservative

Jake Stewart Conservative Miramichi—Grand Lake, NB

I have a point of order.