Finance Committee on May 9th, 2022

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

—and then MP Stewart and MP Blaikie.

[Ed Fast, Conservative, Abbotsford, BC]

No, you're making that up, Mr. Chair, with respect.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

No, that is exactly what happened.

[Ed Fast, Conservative, Abbotsford, BC]

I was looking at Mr. Beech the whole time. He did not have his—

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

On the same point of order, MP Blaikie—

[Ed Fast, Conservative, Abbotsford, BC]

Hold it. Could I finish my point of order?

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

Yes, MP Fast.

[Ed Fast, Conservative, Abbotsford, BC]

You suggested that Mr. Beech had his hand up after you called the meeting. I was looking at him the whole time. What you're saying is patently false, and the evidence will show that.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

The evidence will show that MP Beech's hand had been up.

[Ed Fast, Conservative, Abbotsford, BC]

No.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

It was up.

[Ed Fast, Conservative, Abbotsford, BC]

It was not up after you called the meeting.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

It was up. It was up, MP Fast.

[Ed Fast, Conservative, Abbotsford, BC]

This is a disgrace. If this is how you're going to conduct yourself, Mr. Chair—

[Sophie Chatel, Liberal, Pontiac, QC]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair—

[Ed Fast, Conservative, Abbotsford, BC]

—it's shameful.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

I have a number of points of order.

MP Blaikie, please go ahead.

[Daniel Blaikie, NDP, Elmwood—Transcona, MB]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

On the same point of order, if some members are unhappy with the speaking order that you have proposed, the appropriate thing to do would be to challenge the chair. We'll have a vote on whether to sustain your ruling, and then we can move on. It's the way to resolve it.

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

That's a good point, MP Blaikie. Thank you.

MP Chatel, please go ahead.

[Sophie Chatel, Liberal, Pontiac, QC]

On the same point of order, I'd like to echo what my colleague Mr. Blaikie just said and point to behaviour as a point of order. I'm just learning about proper committee meetings. Challenging the integrity of a member is a point of order, and that should not be allowed in committee, so I agree with...

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

Thank you, MP Chatel.

[Jake Stewart, Conservative, Miramichi—Grand Lake, NB]

I agree with—

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

Is that a point of order?

[Jake Stewart, Conservative, Miramichi—Grand Lake, NB]

It's a point of order, yes.

I'm going to challenge your decision and I would also petition the clerk to find out the time at which MP Beech actually logged on, because his face was not on the screen. If his hand was up, his face would have been in the middle of the screen, where it is now.

You yourself, as chair, said that it was MP Ste-Marie's hand that was up first and I was second. Then you changed your own opinion and put MP Beech in the number one spot, which means you are literally acting in poor faith—

[The Chair, Liberal, Peter Fonseca]

That is incorrect.