Well, certainly there does need to be de-risking of a lot of these products. They are expensive, and companies need to be able to have assistance in that transition. I wouldn't want to leave the impression that we see it as an either/or proposition. There does still need to be work that's quite critical to our sustainable public finances.
What you'll often hear us talking about as the Canadian Chamber is ensuring that when we are spending those public dollars, they're going to the areas that will support sustainable economic growth that will set up future generations for success rather than being spurious investments that may not have a long-term benefit to the Canadian economy.