Evidence of meeting #53 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
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Liberal
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Liberal
Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON
I'd like a recorded vote.
(Amendment agreed to: yeas 11; nays 0)
(Clause 299 as amended agreed to on division)
(Clause 300 agreed to on division)
(On clause 301)
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
On clause 301, there's an amendment from the Bloc, BQ-13.
Go ahead, Mr. Ste-Marie.
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Bloc
Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette, QC
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Like BQ‑12, this amendment seeks to replace the expression “cellule nue” in the French version with “cellule dépourvue d'installation sanitaire”.
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Liberal
Le président Liberal Peter Fonseca
Thank you.
Thank you once again for that help with the translation.
Members, I see Mr. Albas.
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Conservative
Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC
Mr. Chair, the Conservative Party will be supporting this amendment. It's important that the government use the right terminology in both the English and French versions of the bill.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
Thank you.
(Amendment agreed to)
(Clause 301 as amended agreed to on division)
Members, there are no amendments submitted for clauses 302 to 376. Clauses 302 to 376 are all in part 5 of the bill.
Do we have unanimous consent to group those for a vote?
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Some hon. members
Agreed.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
(Clauses 302 to 376 inclusive agreed to on division)
(On clause 377)
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
There is an amendment from the NDP. It's NDP-5, and it can be found on page 28 of your package.
Mr. Blaikie, do you wish to move this amendment?
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NDP
Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB
I do, but before I move the amendment, I might let the committee know that I think there have been some discussions. In fact, Mr. Ste-Marie did an excellent job earlier of illustrating for the public something that's not always evident around the committee table, which is the extent to which, particularly on a large budget bill, we work with other critics in order to be able to understand the legislation that's being proposed, to provide our comments and to prepare amendments.
My understanding from our critic on immigration is that there have been some discussions and we want to propose some amendments to the immigration file, but we may be able to do a better job of that and have some slightly better wording if we were to have a bit more time to be able to do that.
I see we're nearing the end of our meeting time in any event, and I'm wondering if.... I'm not going to move for adjournment, because if anyone would like to provide some comment on that idea, I'd be happy to hear it in advance. However, we are scheduled to come back in the afternoon, and I think we'd probably have some better wording if we were to put that off until the afternoon. I think the last major part of the bill is around employment insurance, so that would be my proposal, which I won't yet formally make, in case others would like to provide some comment on it.
We're now in a position where I have not yet moved the amendment that's in the package, and it may well serve us to come back to it in the afternoon.
I will put that out there for discussion with the committee prior to moving any motions, if that's all right with you, Mr. Chair.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
Yes. Thank you, Mr. Blaikie.
For clarity, are you asking for unanimous consent to table this until the afternoon, so that we can then come back to it?
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NDP
Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB
What I'm suggesting is that I would be happy to move for adjournment promptly if there are no objections from other members on the committee. Before moving adjournment, I'm asking you to canvass the room to see if anyone else has any comment on the proposal.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
I see a number of hands up, Mr. Blaikie. Thank you.
I have Mr. Beech and then Mr. Ste-Marie.
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Liberal
Terry Beech Liberal Burnaby North—Seymour, BC
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I appreciate the comments from Mr. Blaikie. We have similar, ongoing discussions with multiple parties with regard to the EI board of appeal, which are clauses 456 to 488. I believe that the express entry clauses that Mr. Blaikie was just referring to are clauses 377 to 378.
Perhaps we could all agree to table clauses 377 to 378 and 456 to 488 until this afternoon's meeting. We can proceed with the remaining clauses, to use the rest of the time in this meeting.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
Thank you, Mr. Beech.
I'm not sure if you're speaking to the same thing, but I have Mr. Ste-Marie and then Mr. Albas.
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Bloc
Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette, QC
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I agree with the suggestions of both Mr. Blaikie and Mr. Beech.
Also, I want to mention that I intend to withdraw BQ‑14 and BQ‑15, which would amend clause 377 of Bill C‑19.
I was in a rush to take the recommendations set out in the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration's report and turn them into amendments. However, since they don't concern Quebec, I will instead support NDP‑5 when the time comes. It relates to the same issue.
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Conservative
Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC
I would support the initial move to adjourn and then come back. I believe that this isn't a matter of just a few clauses pertaining to the express entry. I think that on the EI reforms we had multiple witnesses come forward—even the EI commissioner—to say that the proposal shouldn't go forward. If reason can be had and reasonable minds can agree, I think the extra 15 minutes would be better spent with Liberal members discussing with the PS and their minister's office whether they're going to come to the table or let the table come to them.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
I have Mr. Blaikie. I also have Mr. Beech.
Would you like to hear from Mr. Beech, Mr. Blaikie?
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Liberal
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NDP
Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB
I'm happy to adjourn, no matter who moves the motion, so consider it moved.