Evidence of meeting #54 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clause.

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Philip Somogyvari  Director General, Strategic Policy and Planning, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Julie Chassé  Director General, Financial Strategy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

5 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We'll suspend for two minutes.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We are back.

I see that MP Beech has his hand up.

Go ahead, MP Beech.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Terry Beech Liberal Burnaby North—Seymour, BC

We're good to vote, Mr. Chair. We'll be opposing.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Okay.

Go ahead, MP Blaikie.

5:05 p.m.

NDP

Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB

This is mostly, I guess, just a request for information.

My understanding is that the citizenship and immigration committee sent a letter to us coming out of the.... I don't know if it has been received yet. I don't think it's been circulated. It did actually recommend voting down these changes from the committee as a result of the process we had initiated to split the bill and get the subject expert recommendations of other committees.

Perhaps we can ask the clerk to verify whether or not that was sent. My understanding is that these clauses were discussed at the citizenship and immigration committee.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

You are correct. It was circulated on Thursday, May 26, at 11:57 a.m.

Members, you may have missed that. Do you want to take another minute to take a look at that?

Yes, MP Albas.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Would you be okay to read part of it into the transcript?

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

I think members can just take a look at what they've received.

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Okay. I'll make my intervention, then.

I just want to do Parliamentary Secretary Beech a favour and tell him that if he opposes this, then he's actually voting against his own legislation. He might want to support it.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Thank you, MP Albas.

I see that MP Ste-Marie's hand is up.

Go ahead, MP Ste-Marie.

5:05 p.m.

Bloc

Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette, QC

Mr. Chair, we did receive the letter. The part corresponding to clauses 379 and 381 states that some members proposed that our committee consider withdrawing clauses 379 and 381.

It wasn't a unanimous agreement, but it was pointed out. Of course, I accept the arguments of my colleague Mr. Blaikie.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We will go to a vote.

5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

I'd like a recorded vote.

(Clause 379 negatived: nays 6; yeas 5)

(Clause 380 agreed to on division)

(Clause 381 negatived: nays 6; yeas 5)

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Members, that brings us to clause 382. I believe there are no amendments proposed for clauses 382 to 455. They are all in part 5 of the bill.

Do we have unanimous consent to bundle them for a vote?

5:10 p.m.

NDP

Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB

Before we agree to that, are we sure that none of those pertain to the employment insurance appeal board? I think you will find that certain members want to vote down the clauses on the EI appeal board. It may be useful to be able to group those together by unanimous consent.

5:10 p.m.

Bloc

Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette, QC

I would like a clarification, Mr. Chair.

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

I'm just getting clarification on that, MP Ste-Marie, from the legislative clerk.

Is it the appeals board you're asking about, MP Blaikie?

5:10 p.m.

NDP

Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB

Yes, that's right. That's division 32, and it looks like it starts at clause 454.

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

That is correct.

5:10 p.m.

NDP

Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB

Okay, so we could go up to—

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Let me rephrase what I just said.

It's not that there are no amendments. It's just that, before we reach the employment insurance appeals board section, we would be able to go from clause 382 to clause 453.

Members, I am looking for unanimous consent to be able to group those.

5:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Okay, clauses 382 to 453 are grouped. Shall clauses 382 to 453 carry?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Can we debate them?

5:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Do you want to debate all of them?