Maybe I'll share how we think about voting our proxies, and we actually publish on our website our principles for voting our proxies. As an active manager, which we are, we do think it is important as a fiduciary to vote the proxies.
We're very clear on what our policies and what our principles would be, and they're all grounded in value creation. They're all grounded across different metrics, different categories, but all really focused on areas where we feel it drives value and drives long-term value for companies.
I won't comment specifically on the ETFs, but for us as an active manager, we do think it is important that we vote our proxies, and we're very transparent on our website as to how we're going to vote.