Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you to all the panellists who are here today.
I would like to say a kind word for those companies that are putting in a DB pension and are taking that risk. They are helping Canadians by being part of the 9%, not the 91% of private companies that don't have a DB. I think that needs to be stated on the record.
That being said, Mr. Gray and Mr. Dunlop, I've heard you say over and over that these pensions are going to be wound up, yet I haven't heard one shred of evidence, not one bit of data, as Mr. Powell has pointed out.
Would you stake your professional reputation that 50% of these DBs are going to be wrapped up if this bill passes, or 25%, 10%, 5%? Would either of you be willing to stake your professional reputation on this?