On that front, we have a very diverse membership of roughly 200,000 businesses as well, but what I will say is the parliamentary budget office itself identified that carbon pricing impacts in agriculture are very variable across operations. What we are seeing is that the largest, most efficient operations tend to have dramatically higher carbon pricing impacts and, at the same time, are not seeing that returned through the rebate. It's not a one-size-fits-all answer by any means, but we do see a significant disconnect between what many farms are paying and what they're receiving back in the rebate.
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