Thank you for that question.
No social or disability assistance program in any jurisdiction across the country brings people's incomes to that low-income measure. That low-income measure is not a thriving income; it's just getting by, day to day. The stories I hear are horrendous. People call my cellphone all the time in desperation. There is nowhere—nowhere—for people to turn.
We are really encouraging this government to not make things worse and to implement a CERB amnesty immediately, and to then look at the Canada social transfer. That's the block transfer that goes to provinces and territories to fund these programs. Increase investments in those and tie them to conditions to make sure they're advancing our human rights obligations.