Indeed, so I'm going to pose it again more briefly. Then I'm going to add a second question.
The first question is, what role does having a carbon budget play in terms of investor certainty and attracting investors to a particular jurisdiction?
To go on to my second question, sometimes at this table and sometimes at other tables that I sit at around this place, what we've heard a lot about from a number of industries—whether it's auto manufacturing, the aerospace industry or the electricity industry and generation, transmission and distribution—is that Canada doesn't do any industrial planning and that there doesn't seem to be a cohesive sense of direction in respect to government investment, government regulation and where an industry is at, and also that industry requires more of a framework in order to be able to attract private investment.
I'm wondering about the extent to which you think planning around decarbonization and meeting our Paris commitments could create tables, not only where we talk about decarbonization and how to meet emission goals, but to bring a more generally cohesive strategic approach to certain industries that will make it easier to attract more investment, rather than the narrative we sometimes hear, which is that any level of government involvement will simply dissuade private sector investors from participating.
I leave it to either panellist to address either question.
I see that Mr. Usher has his hand up.