Thanks, Mr. Usher. I appreciate that.
Maybe we can leave it there, and I'll ask Mr. Youngman to weigh in as well.
Mr. Youngman, the way I heard your opening remarks was that we're really working toward a whole-of-economy approach and that these high-emitting industries have to make the transition as well. They're not just going to immediately disappear. How do we help them make that transition, while not compromising investments and capital flows to much better investments that would rate higher on any scale for ESG?