I do believe we're in a place that, in five or 10 years, will be somewhere better. It's the inevitable conclusion that when you have persons around the table, regardless of their ideologies, focused on the same things, problems get solved, especially as the crisis gets worse.
We will not have a population that survives if we don't deal today with health care, food security or any of these other problems. The crisis has completely overwhelmed people across the political ideological spectrum. One of the most important things to focus on, I think, is that we have to start to parse out the things in the market that we leave up to the free market and the things that we manage, and we have to embrace that.
I think in the last 20 years, in health care in particular, we depended on austerity to lead us to sustainability. Intuitively it doesn't make a whole lot of sense that you eventually cut your way to sustainability. You eventually cut your way into being unsustainable.
I think we're seeing a rewiring of where people are prioritizing things. Does this mean we can't have mindful use of different levers of change at the federal, provincial and territorial level? I don't think so, but we are going to have to change what we measure, and we're going to have to change what we embrace as far as being a responsibility of government. That's a really important, critical moment that we're in right now.