Yes, but I think there's a bigger problem with taxation. I'm going to quote Paul Wells. I go back to how there is an increasing recognition in the public debate in this country that something has gone wrong. Paul Wells put it that if you run a successful business in this country, you're made to feel that you've done something wrong. That's what high taxation does. It's not the disincentives to ordinary people, although those are there. There's this broader signal that we discourage success.
On May 18th, 2023. See this statement in context.