We have a point of order. There is a challenge.
Also, on points of order, members, when somebody is virtual, we'll have to have a bit of a pause to make sure that the interpretation is capturing that point of order. There was a lot of cross-chatter that was happening, and that was very difficult for the interpreters.
There is a challenge.
(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 6; nays 5)
We'll go back to MP Chatel.
The floor is yours.