We're talking about the perception, of course, and as I already mentioned, the IFAW continues to take videos every year, and they do show infractions. In some areas the practices seem to be worse than in others. One of our recommendations is for training and licensing of the sealers. If there were a combination of enforcing the checking for the crushed skulls, the training of sealers so they all knew what they were supposed to do, and the managing of the quota to reduce the competitiveness, then there would be less of that kind of video footage that's so damaging.