I shouldn't jump on the thing, because I know a couple of the people who are presenting tomorrow in Gander, and I think you'll get good information from these people. I sit on the sealing committee of the Fur Institute of Canada, and these people.... When I look at your list for tomorrow, Jim Winter, who is a person who is also on this committee, will be at your meeting tomorrow in Gander. So I think you'll get better information on what our committee thinks should be done.
To expect individuals and companies to fight these groups.... There are huge, huge sums of money. These people are professional PR people. As a company or as individual sealers, we do not have the money to run a campaign against these people. You'd need millions of dollars, and these people have hundreds of millions of dollars that they collect from people throughout the world.
So I think it's rather difficult--not difficult, it's impossible--for the industry itself to stand up against these people. I think we certainly need the support of the Government of Canada to be able to help with the statements and that.