Okay, we will come back to you on that.
In terms of your point about the disconnect between fishermen and scientists, this is one that keeps me awake sometimes. I think it is an issue. We have tried and we will continue to try to address it.
As you may recall, one of the programs we've put in place is the sentinel surveys, whereby we work directly with fishermen. They do the surveys and analyze the results together.
We also have the fisheries collaborative science program, in which we are trying to effect more partnering with science. In your own home province, we have the Fishermen and Scientists Research Society, where we're working closely with the fishermen.
I think we can do more to bring each side together. At the end of the day, there will always be the fact that sometimes if the advice isn't coming out the way people want it to, there will be a disagreement. But I don't think that's what you're speaking about. You're speaking about the fact that they just don't believe it. Our own minister is very concerned about this and has certainly encouraged us to work more with the fishermen. We are going to do that.
In fact, when I spoke of our partnering in the collaboration strategy, this would involve more active outreach to the fishing industry, not just to explain what we do, but to figure out.... I want to know, how do we incorporate this knowledge, which isn't necessarily quantitative, into our models for advice?
Everybody was struggling with that, but it's one of the major issues I see, so I'm open to your advice. We will try to move forward on what we can do, but I think we're on the same page.