One of the biggest issues we face in Newfoundland that's now growing is the fact that we are being told—I don't know how you count the pups, either, you can't go out running around the ice trying to count 5.8 million pups—that there are 5.8 million pups out there compared to approximately two million in the 1970s.
On December 12th, 2006. See this statement in context.