I think the point that you make is really important, and the issue on the Fraser River in regard to Fraser gravel removal is that the decisions are taken out of the technical field because it's been so politicized, and the direct decisions of where and how gravel will be taken out is being made at the senior executive level or senior management level. So the scenario that you described about not being able to take a rock or a stick out of a stream has been flipped totally to the other side of the coin here on the Fraser. It's been politicized and a process is not being undertaken.
On June 1st, 2006. See this statement in context.