Dealing with risk assessment was part of the discussion there. The issue came up earlier about the Fraser River. Risk assessment is probably the right word for it, because nothing is without risk. Risks always have to be evaluated in relation to other risks, I suppose, so we're looking at that Fraser River now and the very big concerns on the coast about the possibilities of flooding.
I flew out just the other day. The snowpack is very profound this year. Of course, you don't know if the officials are praying for it to stay cool so that it melts slowly, because with cooler weather we'll have more rain, which is problematic.
Anyway, in terms of gravel extraction, we know you're never going to extract gravel without some impact. Obviously there's going to be impact, but there has to be a plan, it seems to me, for removal. We have hundreds of millions of tonnes coming down every year, and if we don't do some extraction, we're going to have problems with flooding. It seems to me that we have to have a plan. We know there's a cooperative agreement with the province, but somehow we haven't been doing the extraction levels, and the committee has some understanding of how challenging it can be when you have people saying that it is disturbing .
In terms of no net loss, I don't know how you can apply a no-net-loss principle when you're extracting gravel. There has to be a way to recognize there is risk, but we have to deal with it.