I pick it up regularly. Anyway, you've dealt with that, hopefully.
Harbour authorities, I want to talk about them for a bit. I guess the principle with the establishment of going to the harbour authority model is that at some point you want them to be self-sufficient. Am I correct in that, or is that a pipe dream, from your point of view?
I work very closely with them. I sort of know the revenue average that they're able to take in by the number of vessels that use their facilities, the fees collected and so on. Is it still your objective that some day harbour authorities will be self-sufficient and you would sort of be out of the business, or is it your objective or your aim or I guess the feeling of the department that there'll always be a mix of your involvement?
I'm trying to understand what your thinking is on that. When I look at the harbour authorities I deal with, the harbours, their revenues, their potential for revenues and so on—