It gets increasingly difficult to follow, and I'm not referring to you in particular. We hear about the capital budget, the operations budget. People use terms that are completely different from one time to the next, and in every case, we are talking about different budget envelopes. It becomes incredibly difficult to follow. And I'm not even referring to the table we received on Tuesday about the divestiture program, salaries, port activities and program administration. These are all different budgets established for each region. However, that is a different matter. We can come back to that later.
I'm going to carry on along the same lines as Mr. MacAulay. I assume that small craft harbours are like a leaky roof. The leak is getting worse and worse, and there could be a collapse. In other words, the repair costs are getting higher and higher, and since they cannot be paid, the solution has been to put up fences. These places are not safe. I would like to hear from the three of you on this.
My impression is that while the problem was initially one involving money, it has become much more serious over time. Even with the funding you received, the facilities did not last until the end of their useful lifespan. I would like to know how the problem of a lack of funding has evolved over time, and to what extent it is responsible for the deterioration of the infrastructure.