In fact, our view is that we should consult on the exploitation rate, and here's why: because there are many different exploitation rates we can apply to Cultus. One is zero--we don't harvest them at all--and one is another level--very high, 50% or higher. From the department's perspective, we believe there is a level that we can't go below, but above that low level it's really up to society to provide advice or actually to come to a consensus on what those kinds of exploitation rates should be.
In the case of Cultus, we think that we should be consulting on what the exploitation rate should be, that we should get advice on that, and that we should analyze that advice against conservation objectives. But ideally if people can come together and have consensus on some of these very contentious issues, that's more desirable than the Department of Fisheries and Oceans trying to divide between positions. So we would seek the advice of groups; we would analyze that relative to our objectives before providing advice to the minister.