Does anybody have any idea, on this committee here, of the millions of dollars that fishermen pay to the federal government for our licence fees in a year? I mean, we have boats out there, longliners, paying up to $5,000 or $6,000 a year to the federal government for licence fees. So really, for everybody it's all pay, pay.
When you say “subsidies”, do you mean the federal government should not be building wharves but that the fishermen themselves should be building the wharf infrastructures?