I approached two banks on this issue, as I was wondering how they were lending money to the fishermen lately. Both banks informed me they'd give me 75% of whatever the boat was worth. So if you were buying a fleet and your boat is worth $10,000, you'd have to come up with $192,500 yourself. So the banks aren't there; they aren't there at all.
Furthermore, the processors used to help on unregistered loans and stuff for fisherman, and with this crisis that has totally stopped. There's absolutely nothing--no purchase orders, no money, no nothing--from the packers anymore. It has totally stopped.
So it's quite a blow to the fishery. I've fished for 28 years. I can remember my packer going to a new captain and saying, this man is to get whatever he wants, whenever he wants, and how much he wants. Now, on a day last fall I was looking for $200, and he said, “There's no money here.”