Rick, the fishing industry is probably one of the industries with the least amount of excess capital for research and development activities, yet the CCFI has been able to lever $1 of assistance with $5 of outside funding, and now operates with basically a 50% ratio in terms of its own operating costs. That's the testimony we've heard, if I've paraphrased it correctly, but that seems like a pretty good movement towards sustainability over the long run.
I agree with you. I don't know if CCFI would ever be fully sustainable, especially in these markets at this time. Could you comment on that?
Finally, is the door closed on CCFI? Has ACOA made a decision at the ministerial level and it's now no longer an option to fund CCFI?