The leverage would refer to the $1 million they have in research and development money. The leverage figures they quote would be that that $1 million results in their participation in x millions of dollars in research and development projects.
Some of the debate around leverage is that most of the other money that goes into those projects is money that comes from government or from the private sector. The government program money would continue to be spent, so it's levering it but it's really working with it, so you could argue the government money is levering the CCFI money just as well. Leverage becomes a bit of a mug's game, I think, when you look at it that way.
There have been indications from provincial governments that they're prepared to pay something toward the cost of the ongoing operations of CCFI, and that's seen as a move in the right direction. I guess that's something we had been telling CCFI they should be doing for about eight years.