As I noted, it's important for the Scientific Council to maintain its status as an equal constituent body within NAFO. That ensures independence. The Scientific Council does not report to any of the other bodies in NAFO; it's equal. It does respond to requests for information from the Fisheries Commission and from coastal states like Canada, but it also conducts...and is free to provide information of its own accord. I think that's an important consideration.
With regard to the existence of the management body and the scientific body within NAFO, I think that affords some opportunities for collaboration. We've seen some very recent examples. With regard to implementation of the precautionary approach, that was done over a long period of time with joint meetings of science and managers. I think a more recent example is the working group of fisheries managers and scientists that looks at the vulnerable marine ecosystems, the corals and sponges. I think that enables the scientists and the managers to openly discuss the information and to go forward with reasonable management measures to offer protection. In fact, that was the case at the recent meeting, when that working group provided very specific recommendations that were then adopted within the commission.
So with regard to the existence of managers and scientists within the organization, I think those are two positive examples of cooperation and collaboration that led to some good measures being implemented.