I won't speak about what the minister said or didn't say, but we've seen in the past that NAFO has been broken through different things that have happened. If you look at what is currently happening and has been happening for the last several years and what is on the cards around the table right now, you have total allowable catch decisions that are consistent with the position the Government of Canada has adopted. So in virtually all cases on straddling stocks, and in most cases even on the Flemish Cap, which are not straddling stocks—they're distinct stocks—the NAFO decision has mirrored the Canadian government position. In addition to that, two or three Canadian patrol vessels in the NAFO regulatory area have had very effective surveillance and control capabilities, in the last several years at least.
As it stands today, at both the NAFO table and on the water in control and surveillance, you probably couldn't distinguish any difference. If we had custodial management where we were totally making all the decisions ourselves rather than having a multilateral table, there probably wouldn't be much difference today. The question is about the future. The extent to which there will continue to be agreement at the NAFO table with the other countries is unknown.