I don't think I actually said any of that yet, certainly in terms of the slogan.
What I will say is that it is a term—and I think Professor McDorman would agree—that has no definition in international law because it's not an accepted concept. Whether it is a government policy or it's been stated—and I did read the previous testimony of the minister—I can say from an analyst's point of view that if custodial management is what it was said to be by the Senate committee previously, by this committee at one point, and by the legislative committee in Newfoundland in the early 2000s, then no, we haven't achieved that, and we can't.