Evidence of meeting #44 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was nafo.

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Loyola Hearn  As an Individual

4:15 p.m.

As an Individual

Loyola Hearn

Okay, tell me what it is.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Andrews Liberal Avalon, NL

We will exert Canadian custodial management to the edge of the continental shelf, period.

4:15 p.m.

As an Individual

Loyola Hearn

But that's not the definition of custodial management--

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Andrews Liberal Avalon, NL

It will be to the 200-mile limit and have a bilateral agreement with the province.

4:15 p.m.

As an Individual

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Andrews Liberal Avalon, NL

That's your definition and that's the Prime Minister's definition, neither of which was accomplished, but you won't fess up and say, “Yes, we accomplished this” or “No, we didn't”.

4:15 p.m.

As an Individual

Loyola Hearn

I don't know whether you understand what you read or not, but that is not a definition.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Andrews Liberal Avalon, NL

Your leader said that.

4:15 p.m.

As an Individual

Loyola Hearn

He is saying.... Gerry Byrne was there as a member of the government, voting against custodial management. The government was voting against it. Paul Martin was saying we will do exactly--

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Andrews Liberal Avalon, NL

I'm saying what Stephen Harper, your leader, was saying.

4:15 p.m.

As an Individual

Loyola Hearn

What the Prime Minister is saying--and he wasn't Prime Minister then--is we will extend custodial management--

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

Gentlemen, one at a time, please--

4:20 p.m.

As an Individual

Loyola Hearn

What I'm saying is if we did it.... You're asking me if we did it. I'm asking you what custodial management is, so that I can answer your question. You don't even know what custodial management is.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

Gentlemen--

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Andrews Liberal Avalon, NL

I like that definition there.

4:20 p.m.

As an Individual

Loyola Hearn

Do you? But that's not the definition. Read it out again for the record. Read it out.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Andrews Liberal Avalon, NL

I did read it. If you can't understand what I'm reading, maybe you need to go back and read the record.

4:20 p.m.

As an Individual

Loyola Hearn

I can understand perfectly, but it's not the definition.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Scott Andrews Liberal Avalon, NL

Well, tell that to Stephen Harper, then.

4:20 p.m.

As an Individual

Loyola Hearn

If I said I will extend my visit for half an hour, I'd better define what I'm going to do.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

Mr. Hearn, thank you.

Mr. Byrne, you have a point of order. State your point of order, please.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Gerry Byrne Liberal Humber—St. Barbe—Baie Verte, NL

The point, Mr. Chair, is that this is a very serious issue. Perhaps we can move more quickly for the benefit of the committee. I don't know what value this particular witness is now providing. I don't know what value the answers to the questions are providing.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

John Weston Conservative West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC

I have a point of order.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Gerry Byrne Liberal Humber—St. Barbe—Baie Verte, NL

We have an opportunity to actually decide the issue. The witness doesn't appear to want to stick to the facts. I think it would be much more valuable to everyone's time to get on with this.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston

That's not actually a point of order, Mr. Byrne. That's more or less a statement at this point.

Monsieur Blais, you have the floor.