Yes, okay.
In the Pacific region a committee has been formed to study the issue. It involves agencies from small craft harbours throughout the province, but also the volunteer organizations, harbour authorities, and what's called the HABC, the Harbour Authority Association of B.C. The committee has been formed, and they've done a study to get a handle on the problem to see where the solutions can be found.
It's a very difficult issue, because it crosses so many jurisdictions. The problem you have, of course, is that once again you have volunteers trying to find a solution for a problem, and it's taxing. But there is a study underway to try to get a handle on the problem. It's very big, from what we understand from the numbers we're getting. We're hopefully going to be able to come up with some solutions, but it's a very difficult issue, and we don't really have any answers to it right now.
We had presentations during the conference on derelict vessels. The truth is that one sinking of a derelict vessel at your harbour can bankrupt the harbour authority. It's that simple. We need to find a solution for it. This is going to be an issue right across the country. I talked with Morris earlier, and it's an issue in Newfoundland now.
The problem we have, once again, is that we have volunteers trying to find a solution to a problem.