I would like to ask Dr. Pennell a question.
Earlier on, during your presentation, you mentioned that we need a new approach, that we must innovate. You even talked about the social sciences. I'm having a lot of difficulty following you when you go down that path. I will therefore leave it to you to convince us that the social sciences are in some way connected to the natural sciences, as far as sea lice, aquaculture and decreasing numbers of salmon are concerned. Try and convince us that there is a place for the social sciences somewhere in this complex maze.