With respect to the southern gulf cod, they're very transient in the southern gulf, as you can appreciate. They come down to whelp, and once that process is over, they all go north. It's of very short duration, that stay in the gulf. Our view is that the grey seal population is the more serious contributor to the natural mortality in the southern gulf.
I would point out that we do not have that same level of scientific consensus in other areas because of the fact that, for example, Scotian Shelf cod were depleted substantially, even in the absence of any groundfish fishing, over the course of the last 15 to 20 years. We didn't look at that question scientifically at the time when there were still enough cod to allow for some determination of the contribution of seals to their high mortality. But high mortality in that area was extreme.