We've heard that position before, and I appreciate that.
With respect to Dr. Martin Krkosek's work, I've actually read pretty much all of what Dr. Harvey would call the thrust and parry and all of the papers flying back and forth there.
Let me ask a couple of questions, and then I'll run out of time. What did you think of his paper, in which he said that by 2010 the pink salmon would be extinct? Clearly, they will not.
Also, when he appeared before us, he didn't seem to be reaching the conclusions that you're reaching. In other words, he said pretty clearly that he's not opposed to aquaculture. He thinks it needs to be managed in an effective way. In fact, I think he was certainly suggesting that it had improved significantly, along the lines of what Dr. Sheppard was saying.
Can you comment on these things, please?