Mrs. O'Neill, I will add to that. We need to look at short-term solutions. We also need to look at longer-term solutions. I mentioned previously that some of our fishermen...it is mostly affecting the younger ones, the ones who don't have all kinds of money. They are tied up with all kinds of debts and all kinds of financing situations.
That would also answer part of Mr. Donnelly's questions, and also Mr. Byrne, when he was asking about the science part of it. We are working in silos. Scientists have their say and the fishermen say something else. We have to look to a new model. There's a breach of confidence right now and it doesn't work anymore. So we have to take time, sit down, and if we have to reinvent the wheel, let's do it. Let's try to find a way that this is going to work, because right now.... We just heard from the first nation, and they confirmed to us what we've been saying: this model doesn't work anymore. The fishermen just plainly don't believe what scientists are saying.
When we look at the longer term...right now you can't finance. There is not a damn young guy, 25 or 30 years old, who can go to the bank or a credit union, or wherever, and say, “I want to purchase from my father or my next door neighbour...and I want to get into crab fishing?” Are you crazy? Did you lose your head somewhere? It doesn't make sense. Who is going to fish? Who is going to take that relève? The answer from DFO is, “We don't look into that part; the province has to look at that.” How the heck can the province look into that when DFO is playing all kinds of political games? There is no way you can get an accountant to sign a pro forma that he can go to the bank with. The figures don't stand up. Nobody will do that, because DFO is playing a political game, and there's no way anybody can finance a licence.
So when you're saying, what do we have to look at, we have to look into the long term and how we're going address that. Who is going to go fishing? Who is going to take that crab, or that shrimp, or those scallops, or whatever it is out there?