That depends on the assessment process for getting the certificate. As I said, there are some organizations that if you pay them $5,000, they ask a few questions and you get the certificate. There are questions about the credibility of that process and whether they're actually looking at sustainability.
It's also a question of how you define sustainability. In my view, an industry that goes through an MSC assessment and that is certified is sustainable. It's a very thorough process. The indicators are very strong. They cover sustainability from an ecological perspective. They cover the target stock, the ecosystem's impacts, and the actual management of the fishery. They really cover the whole range of questions you should be looking at in terms of sustainability for a fishery.