Okay.
Evidence of meeting #1 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was first.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #1 for Fisheries and Oceans in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was first.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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NDP
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston
So you're proposing for the first round that there be two Conservative questions. So we weren't talking about the number, but we were talking about ten, ten, and seven, right?
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NDP
Fin Donnelly NDP New Westminster—Coquitlam, BC
Yes. That was essentially just going off Mike's.... He provided some clarity, which I know is a separate motion and another discussion.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston
Are we clear on what we're discussing here? According to the amendment Mr. Donnelly is proposing, the first round would be ten minutes per Conservative Party questioner, ten minutes per NDP questioner, and seven minutes per Liberal Party questioner. In the second and subsequent rounds it would be six minutes per Conservative Party questioner, six minutes per NDP questioner, and four minutes per Liberal Party questioner.
Correct, Mr. Donnelly?
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston
On the amendment, those in favour?
(Amendment negatived)
Now we come back to the original motion by Mr. Allen that proposes seven minutes per NDP—
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Conservative
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston
Sorry. Seven minutes per party in the first round. We'll decide what a round is next. I'll get it straight sooner or later. So it's seven minutes per party in the first round and five minutes per party in the second and subsequent rounds.
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Conservative
Randy Kamp Conservative Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge—Mission, BC
That's not quite right, Mr. Chair. It says “per questioner”, because we may have a round having more than one questioner in a party. So if you're saying “per party” that wouldn't be accurate. We're saying “seven minutes per questioner in the first round, five minutes per questioner in the second and subsequent rounds”, which is how the motion reads. It doesn't refer to parties at that point. We still haven't defined when the parties get to speak, so there's a difference.
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Conservative
Randy Kamp Conservative Pitt Meadows—Maple Ridge—Mission, BC
We're saying “questioner”, which is how the motion reads.
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Conservative
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston
When we get to the motion. All right.
So seven minutes per questioner for the first round, five minutes per questioner on the second and subsequent rounds.
Mr. MacAulay, on the motion.
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Liberal
Lawrence MacAulay Liberal Cardigan, PE
I have just a question. You say “seven minutes per questioner”. Does that mean you cannot divide or split your time?
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston
Feedback seems to be coming from your mike, Mr. MacAulay. Is that where we're getting it from? Are you wired?
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston
On the motion as proposed by Mr. Allen....
Mr. Allen, do you want to read it one more time just to be clear?
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Conservative
Mike Allen Conservative Tobique—Mactaquac, NB
I move that the witnesses from any one organization shall be allowed 10 minutes to make their opening statement. During the questioning of witnesses there shall be allocated seven minutes for the first round of questioning, and thereafter five minutes shall be allocated to each questioner in the second and subsequent rounds of questioning.
We'll define what a round is and the order in the next motion.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston
You have heard the motion as proposed by Mr. Allen.
(Motion agreed to)
That establishes the times per questioner and the time for opening statements from our presenters.
Now we need to talk about the order. Do we have a proposal for the order?
Mr. Allen.
12:10 p.m.
Conservative
Mike Allen Conservative Tobique—Mactaquac, NB
Thank you, Chair.
Now we'll go back to what I hypothetically was saying the order would be and make it a motion for the order. Then we can discuss whatever amendments Mr. MacAulay would like to make at that time.
The spirit of the recommendation here is to ensure that we at least give the opportunity for each of the members of the committee to ask a question. I think that's important. We're all members and we should all have the time. As a result of that we've got minutes now that are allocated, which will allow that to happen. Now the point is how we order it such that we have the best chance to do that.
Mr. Chair, I would move that the order for questioning for the first round shall be as follows: the New Democratic Party, the Conservative Party, the Liberal Party, and the Conservative Party.
That is round one.
Questioning during round two shall alternate between the government and opposition members in the following fashion: NDP, Conservative, NDP, Conservative, NDP, Conservative, Liberal, Conservative.
That would allow every member to ask a question or have the opportunity. They can pass if they want or whatever they want to do, but everybody would have at least one opportunity. That would take a total of 68 minutes. Given some slack time in there, it would give an opportunity for every member to ask. Lawrence, in this case, would be able to get a second round in as well.
Mr. Chair, that is my motion. If time permits, further rounds shall repeat the pattern in the first two at the discretion of the chair.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Rodney Weston
Thank you, Mr. Allen.
Is there discussion on the motion?
Mr. MacAulay.