What I was saying was about the weight of evidence of the science. There has always been quite a controversy on the B.C. coast with regard to the scientific studies, but when you look at the vast majority of studies--those looking at the impact of sea lice in particular, which has been most studied, while disease has had very little study--the weight of evidence to date shows that when there are more sea lice on farms, there are more sea lice on wild juvenile salmon. Small salmon are very susceptible to the effects of both pests and disease. That has been the big concern.
As far as escapes go, the evidence is not there at the moment to show that there is a major impact on wild streams; it's just that the escapes have happened and farmed salmon have gotten into streams.