I have a couple of other quick points, too, Mr. Allen.
The governments need to have the will to do a rapid response if those carp are seen above the barrier. I think that's something that we just need to be part of our control effort until this separation has occurred. Separate from the barrier, we also have to really heighten our game collectively with law enforcement, and we have to stop the movement of these across U.S. state lines.
The Canadians have done a wonderful job of intercepting shipments at the border, but that means they're getting to the border. So law enforcement has to be heightened. We need more communication among law enforcement officers. We need a memorandum of agreement, even, among the law enforcement jurisdictions so that they can share information more smoothly.