On grey seals, there's obviously been a clear debate. The fishermen are strongly of the view that grey seals are a large biomass that's feeding on fish and impacting on the stocks.
We have done a lot of work on the feeding habits of grey seals and their potential impact on cod. We brought together many experts from all points of view, not just those with the view that it's a done deal that there's a relationship. We brought over 50 people together to come to a scientific consensus, which was that in the southern gulf, in particular, grey seals are the most likely cause of high levels of mortality of large cod and are impeding the recovery of southern gulf cod. That is also the subject of a discussion by the Fisheries Resource Conservation Council, which recommended to the minister that we have a targeted cull of grey seals to try to give the spawning stocks and the southern gulf cod an opportunity to rebound and to start getting the numbers so they can reach a critical mass and we can deal with the current high level of mortality. So that's a consideration for the minister at this point.