I'll tell you. What happened is the Alaskans, without a minimum processing requirement, basically adjusted. What they did is they sent the smaller products to, for example, Korea. It was further processed there and then sold into Japan.
Meanwhile, basically what was happening in B.C. is that the smaller herring, the seiners would not be going out to harvest them. We were reducing landed value. Then in the marketplace, the Alaskans could sell to the Japanese and say that they not only had roe herring here, but they had food herring, where our people could only sell that.
The bottom line is, it was understood then that what was happening was the overall pie was declining.