The exploitation rates that we have been measuring, which are on the order of less than 20%—and they're generally on the order of 13% to 18%—are considerably less than the total mortality rates that we're measuring in these populations. So the changes that occurred in one stock, for instance, of a 48% decline, fishing did contribute to that because there was a loss rate on the order of 13% to 14% with that particular stock. About one-quarter of the total loss was attributable to fishing. The rest of it was attributable to other factors.
On April 28th, 2014. See this statement in context.