The scientists couldn't detect any impact of fishing on the increase. They just couldn't find it in the noise, the levels were so low. They're not so sure about the way down, but they're still not able to detect what that impact could be.
We're still setting the total allowable catches according the MSC-accredited harvest control rules, which we agree with. Even though we're not sure it will make much difference, we have no choice. We have to believe it will make a difference.