Well, if you're talking about a specific species, as we are here about shrimp, we know where the species is being harvested. We know the degree and the volume of area we're talking about.
We need to come up with a fair way or an expectation of how we survey those particular areas and come up with the best idea we can. Certainly there's an opportunity to use the experience and knowledge of fish harvesters. As an example, a fish harvester has told me that because of the prevalence of cod coming back and where shrimp is on the bottom, the shrimp sometimes is coming up into another column of water. So when you do the actual survey, you're not picking up the shrimp.
So that's some of the knowledge and things we're hearing from those who are in the business. I think we need to stop and listen to them and use that as we go forward with surveys, and maybe we need to change the things we do. But I don't disagree that it's a huge challenge. It's big ecosystem, a big ocean. But that said, it's such a valuable resource that we need to pursue and find the best ways we can to get that science.