I'm not well versed on the other proposed discussions, however I can say that our group subscribes very highly to good animal welfare standards. The sealing sector itself, the harvesters, requested that the professionalization program that's now in place become mandatory. Along with veterinarians they helped create the course into something that's useable and achievable to achieve a high animal welfare standard.
I think when we draw the line between...I think there's a great deal of confusion internationally about animal rights and animal welfare. To endow an animal with human rights is quite frankly quite dangerous and difficult for the world to manage. However, all animals that are going to be exploited, either if held in captivity or in the wild, are entitled to a good animal welfare outcome when they're being used or being raised by humans. That's where our group sees the greatest gains in improving animal welfare and third party validation.