I'm saying any vessel, in terms of a subsidy.
The thing is that long-distance fishing, by and large, is uneconomic unless you have a subsidy. That's why the Germans got out of it; that's why the UK got out of it; and we're not fishing on the high seas. To us, that's a big issue. Unfortunately, in the IUU action plan of President Obama, one of the issues they have identified to act on is to work towards eliminating subsidies that contribute to IUU fishing. In our view, if IUU fishing is occurring on the high seas and these vessels are getting fuel subsidies, without the fuel subsidies the number of fishing vessels on the high seas would be significantly reduced.
I think there are ways of addressing this, so that hopefully we can emerge in the future.