They still are, in a large number of areas. In certain areas, such as Hawaii, they probably have lost more species for some other, unknown reasons. As we all know, our oceans are not as well as they used to be. There are some other issues with that.
In terms of the population in this part of the world, it's been untouched. These fish have been able to come and go here as they please for hundreds of thousands of years—or for however long fish have been here. There have never been licences to catch or release or retain them in any commercial value. Again, it's mostly recreational value. The value of the recreational fishery will outweigh 100 to one the commercial value of the fish, so we are certainly believers in catch and release. I'm certainly a believer that these fish can be attained at an optimum time. I still say that we need to do some more research on the time we should be harvesting those—or not even harvesting them, but actually catching and releasing them—or for when a recreational licence should be permitted.
Basically, I think this fishery is a strong fishery. I believe it can be sustained through science and with good-minded anglers. I personally believe that anything that can be released live certainly will come back and pay the country and yourselves many times over. One fish released live is worth 10 or 20 on the wharf. That is a fact when it comes to sport fishing.
As well, these species that I'm talking about are world-sought. They're not sought just here or Mexico or Florida, but people around the world are seeking out these species. We have them here, and we're not even doing it. It's a brand new thing we could be doing that would certainly go down in history as a money-maker for our country and put us on the world stage as one of the premium places to go to catch these species.