The other question I have for you is this. In November of 2017, the department conducted numerous round tables and discussions with stakeholders to formulate what was supposed to be the plan going forward for closures. The industry or the individuals I met with seemed to suggest to me that the department officials recommended a completely different landscape in terms of what would be effective for closures, not starting at Otter Point but actually going out further. Do you know what I'm talking about when I say Otter Point? It's at the south end of Vancouver Island, just beyond....
At any rate, they basically told me that the closures actually didn't reflect anything that was agreed upon in those consultations with the fishermen and with the various stakeholders, and that the closures actually reflected the exact mandate that Ecojustice asked for.
Do you have any clarification for me on that?