Okay. The detail on that one, I guess, is more complicated than we can get into today here. But it was an interesting comment that some of that transferability is required, so a different transfer system than what's happening with other ITQs is required, I take it.
Perhaps, through the chair, we could get some more information or get the earlier guest to provide us with a bit more on what he was referring to on the transferability. Thank you.
We talked earlier about the cost of the quotas, the cost of the transfers and so on.
Mr. MacDonald, you referred to your costs, and said that you put your home up as collateral and so on. I think part of what we heard earlier was that the prices were driven up because PICFI took the low-hanging fruit that could have gone to incoming new fishermen. Would you guys reflect that same comment?